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Amazon's two faces

Postby vijayshanth » 23 Apr 2015, 08:53

Amazon is now advertising a lot in India claiming it's the largest online store of India. But its associated website Mturk is treating Indians like crap. All websites survive with Indian contribution and audience. But they all treat Indians like crap. It's time they should be grateful to the Indians :(
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Re: Amazon's two faces

Postby JordanDD » 23 Apr 2015, 10:23

Yeah... Sadly some webstore and website think way more to money then customers. They see cash bills and are almost crying to get it.

Its sad to see that, some website should work more on customers, and then work on money.

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Re: Amazon's two faces

Postby DinheiroGelada » 23 Apr 2015, 12:29

vijayshanth wrote:Amazon is now advertising a lot in India claiming it's the largest online store of India. But its associated website Mturk is treating Indians like crap. All websites survive with Indian contribution and audience. But they all treat Indians like crap. It's time they should be grateful to the Indians :(


I agree with you, most websites will treat foreign like crap. But more important than this is, they'll only treat you like this if you allow it.

Don't give value/money to companies that don't treat you well!
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Re: Amazon's two faces

Postby CyberFreak » 23 Apr 2015, 14:21

What have they done to treat Indians so bad?
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Re: Amazon's two faces

Postby vijayshanth » 23 Apr 2015, 14:45

it's basically exploitation of cheap Indian labor and skills. When you have people do your tasks for rock bottom rates, they will make use of it. The worst thing is they ban the Indians without giving a single warning.
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Re: Amazon's two faces

Postby CyberFreak » 23 Apr 2015, 16:03

It is up to the users whether they want to do the tasks or not. If users do complete them fast enough then obviously there is demand and the companies offering these tasks are not going to offer more. It doesn't make good business sense really.

DinheiroGelada made a very good point
...they'll only treat you like this if you allow it...
By people still completing the tasks, you are accepting the terms and allow them to take advantage of you (if that is how you feel) and if people didn't complete the tasks, more money would need to be offered.

By the way, I do not mean to cause any offence by the following statement. It is just my personal observation as someone from a English speaking country.

If I were to create a task for a site like Crowdflower or MTurk, my concern would be the quality of the content provided. In my experience from this forum and seeing users complain endlessly about tasks on Crowdflower specifically is that many tasks/rules are not easy to understand and people from non english speaking countries struggle to understand and get disqualified or banned. This does result in a higher volume of low quality tasks being submitted though or in the case of ForumCoin, alot of low quality posts which are hard understand, too short or way off topic. With the lower quality content coming from some countries and users, I would not be that interested on paying a great deal for the work. In the case of this forum, alot of the low quality and spammy posts being made come from users from countries like India but unfortunately that is just the way it is. Indians do a much better job posting here on an English speaking forum than I would on an Indian speaking forum however Indians will not easily be able to contribute to the same standard in terms of quality as people from some other countries like the UK and the US for example. It does mean we have to factor than in when it comes to what is offered in terms of rewards if you offer a fixed reward to all users no matter where they are from. Typically the quality of content provided will vary alot from country to country.
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Re: Amazon's two faces

Postby vijayshanth » 23 Apr 2015, 16:29

The point is the low rewards they pay for the tasks suit only the Indians.With that low rewards how can you expect high quality output? the fact of the matter is, there are millions of Indians who can write better English than native English speaking people.

They pay so poor for the tasks. Why can't they give a few warnings before banning an account? Dictatorship attitude in any place is not acceptable.
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Re: Amazon's two faces

Postby CyberFreak » 23 Apr 2015, 16:43

I really don't think increasing the rewards will result in the quality of the work improving. It may even encourage users to rush even more to complete more tasks before they expire. Higher rewards = more users completing them = the tasks available for less time = users completing the tasks quicker because if they can do each task a few seconds quicker, they can get a few more tasks completed meaning alot more money.

I complete some tasks on Crowdflower (which is similar to MTurk) and some tasks I complete don't get completed fast enough so the author increases the payment. It doesn't encourage me in any way to improve the quality of my work though. I just usually feel more motivated to do more tasks in total at the same quality as before.
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Re: Amazon's two faces

Postby Fish » 23 Apr 2015, 22:27

It's not amazon's fault that nobody cares to make tasks for indians with their mturk. Amazon isn't the one making each task. It's other advertisers/companies looking for people to do some of their busywork.
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Re: Amazon's two faces

Postby Cloudlin » 29 Apr 2015, 04:05

Why do you feel like they treat indians like crap? What happened with mturk
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Re: Amazon's two faces

Postby jade100 » 30 Apr 2015, 05:39

that makes indians in the low level. too bad
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