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Bubblews / Hubpages/ Revenue Share article Script

Postby Sam » 25 Apr 2019, 05:41

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I just noticed this uploaded on CodeCanyon. It is a pay per view article script which you can use to reward members for views on their articles. You can accomplish something similar with WordPress and assorted plugins, however this has a major advantage: a whole lot of inbuilt security.

There was a website from a (now banned) member here which got a few ForumCoin members on board. Might be cool to see someone do this!

Thoughts? What sort of rates would you expect per view from an article site?
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Postby sofs » 25 Apr 2019, 06:24

Sounds interesting. However, you get paid for internal traffic not external traffic, that seems weird. I somehow don't like the idea of the publisher setting different rates for different countries.
Hmm.. I wish someone could set up a site which pays upfront (like the banned members site). These views dependent platforms are for players who are really smart when it comes to getting traffic.
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Postby suny » 25 Apr 2019, 07:14

I would like to give it a try but as @sofs said above, maybe the external viewership is more helpful rather than internal for a site. However, with innovative ways of sending fake traffic by some users the sites prefer the internal traffic. My own view is that something in the range of 6-10/per cent is worth your time. And if it allows outside (legal views) than 10-15 is not a bad rate.
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Re: Bubblews / Hubpages/ Revenue Share article Script

Postby mrki444 » 25 Apr 2019, 07:51

Revenue share sites don't have fix rates since Money is divided between publishers and admins. If rates are fix, than site is not full revenue share type.
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Postby Joseph83 » 25 Apr 2019, 08:10

It will be a welcomed idea if one can be paid per view on his articles say 10 to 15c .
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Postby suny » 25 Apr 2019, 08:18

mrki444 wrote:Revenue share sites don't have fix rates since Money is divided between publishers and admins. If rates are fix, than site is not full revenue share type.


Maybe no more today, but most sites had fixed pay per view in the past. Some sites even made it clear that what was paid for comment/view or bringing outside views in their FAQ section.
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Postby skysnap » 25 Apr 2019, 09:29

I'd say flat out rate would be a good idea. Like Upto 500 words 50 cent to X amount set by the site same like forumcoin. Sites that give pay per views die quickly because advertisers don't work with that model long enough. So flat posting rates would be lot better option.
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Postby Ash » 25 Apr 2019, 19:04

This looks interesting. It would be a good script for the banned members that used to be here that owned Rational Mind Club. This would automate everything and ensure no one can cheat the system
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Postby mrki444 » 26 Apr 2019, 07:13

There will be always way for cheat. It depends how much visitor and admin have skills for cheat or catch.
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Postby raaman » 26 Apr 2019, 14:15

skysnap wrote:So flat posting rates would be lot better option.

Yes. So that writers also need not worry about views and there will be no need to share your articles.
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Postby sofs » 26 Apr 2019, 14:45

I would go one step further to what @skysnap said and yes, it would be great if we followed the FC model, pay a small amount upfront and pay per views as revenue sharing.

Ensure that fake traffic and internal faking is strictly monitored.

There is this guy or whatever on Bitlanders who creates new profiles everyday and those keep liking, commenting only on his posts. It's so obvious and funny to watch the process.
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Postby skysnap » 26 Apr 2019, 16:26

sofs wrote: it would be great if we followed the FC model, pay a small amount upfront and pay per views as revenue sharing.


No. Pay per view of any type usually kills off the host website. It never works good for the site. Upfront payment or the payment after verification of the content is the only sustainable option. Share, likes, views only kill the sustainable growth option.
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Postby Sam » 26 Apr 2019, 21:13

sofs wrote:Sounds interesting. However, you get paid for internal traffic not external traffic, that seems weird. I somehow don't like the idea of the publisher setting different rates for different countries.
Hmm.. I wish someone could set up a site which pays upfront (like the banned members site). These views dependent platforms are for players who are really smart when it comes to getting traffic.


I think it should pay for external traffic? That's how I read the script?\

You could set up a site which paid equally for all traffic. Unfortunately, advertisers pay more in certain regions (usually where people have higher incomes and more disposable money). You might face an adverse selection problem (economic term that's actually simple): people from countries which usually have poor pay per view rates would signup and promote to local people and those who usually get higher ppv rates wouldn't (because better rates would be offered elsewhere).

skysnap wrote:I'd say flat out rate would be a good idea. Like Upto 500 words 50 cent to X amount set by the site same like forumcoin. Sites that give pay per views die quickly because advertisers don't work with that model long enough. So flat posting rates would be lot better option.


I think the problem with that is similar to the above. Not that views necessarily judge the quality of the article but at least it gives an unbiased view of what people like. So... people who write good articles who would get $3 or $10 on a ppv site wouldn't write for a site paying $0.50 but people who write poorly would.

I do think that sites starting out probably need to offer some sort of fixed incentive as well as ppv to encourage authors.

Ash wrote:This looks interesting. It would be a good script for the banned members that used to be here that owned Rational Mind Club. This would automate everything and ensure no one can cheat the system


There are Wordpress plugins to automate, I guess they never went down that route. I was pretty impressed when they set it up.... I think it's a good idea but the execution needs to be right (correct incentives for authors, easy payouts, easy way to stop cheaters, good ad networks and thoughtful ads that are well-paying, tips & tricks for authors to promote etc.).
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Postby mrki444 » 27 Apr 2019, 15:18

skysnap wrote:No. Pay per view of any type usually kills off the host website. It never works good for the site. Upfront payment or the payment after verification of the content is the only sustainable option. Share, likes, views only kill the sustainable growth option.


But than webmaster will pay less for article in upfront since he can't know how much will he earn from it.

Why do you think shares, likes and views kill growth options?
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Postby Ash » 27 Apr 2019, 20:13

Sam wrote:There are Wordpress plugins to automate, I guess they never went down that route. I was pretty impressed when they set it up.... I think it's a good idea but the execution needs to be right (correct incentives for authors, easy payouts, easy way to stop cheaters, good ad networks and thoughtful ads that are well-paying, tips & tricks for authors to promote etc.).

Yeah, that's what I thought as well when I first came across it. The payments system based on views (they way they set it up) was quite easy to cheat really. The ads that they utilised on the site weren't exactly user-friendly either which probably annoyed a lot of people.
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Postby ptrikha21 » 28 Apr 2019, 10:45

sofs wrote:I would go one step further to what @skysnap said and yes, it would be great if we followed the FC model, pay a small amount upfront and pay per views as revenue sharing.

Ensure that fake traffic and internal faking is strictly monitored.

There is this guy or whatever on Bitlanders who creates new profiles everyday and those keep liking, commenting only on his posts. It's so obvious and funny to watch the process.


In the longer run, best practice is to be ethical. Unethical things get caught sooner or later.
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Postby Ash » 28 Apr 2019, 16:26

Exactly. We saw what happened with some users over here at ForumCoin where they had multiple accounts and tried to cheat the article rewards system. You'll just eventually get found out and banned.
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Postby raaman » 28 Apr 2019, 16:56

Ash wrote:The ads that they utilised on the site weren't exactly user-friendly either which probably annoyed a lot of people.

But there are many ads like that online.
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Postby Ash » 28 Apr 2019, 18:47

raaman wrote:
Ash wrote:The ads that they utilised on the site weren't exactly user-friendly either which probably annoyed a lot of people.

But there are many ads like that online.

Of course, but how many professional sites use such advertising techniques. I don't know any sites other than streaming sites that uses pop-up advertisements. Having a new window open with an advertisement is extremely annoying
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Postby raaman » 30 Apr 2019, 06:55

Ash wrote: Having a new window open with an advertisement is extremely annoying

Yes. I agree. But I find online that people are insensitive to issues and never care about others.
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