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DuckDuckGo Controversy

Postby Yugocean » 13 Mar 2022, 06:49

DuckDuckGo browser is actively getting involved in Ukraine-Russia war.

Gabriel Weinberg (DDG owner) has announced that he is down ranking sites associated with Russian disinformation, and place news modules and information boxes at the top of DuckDuckGo search results.

Now most of the users are objecting this move, it has become a controversy of Ukraine vs Russia.

What is your take?
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Re: DuckDuckGo Controversy

Postby ptrikha21 » 13 Mar 2022, 16:52

The way the war has forced some 2.5 Million people out of Ukraine would make many people support Ukraine's side. But yes, it is a kind of political stand which such sites normally do not take.
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Re: DuckDuckGo Controversy

Postby Yugocean » 14 Mar 2022, 06:45

ptrikha21 wrote:The way the war has forced some 2.5 Million people out of Ukraine would make many people support Ukraine's side. But yes, it is a kind of political stand which such sites normally do not take.

Controversy is actually used to make itself popular, many business groups boycotted Russia to get into controversy, DDG is first search engine to do that.
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Re: DuckDuckGo Controversy

Postby skysnap » 15 Mar 2022, 06:19

I think the results of the duckduckgo is a good overall but the thing is that a lot of those results don't have much relevance compared to google.
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Re: DuckDuckGo Controversy

Postby Yugocean » 15 Mar 2022, 07:46

skysnap wrote:I think the results of the duckduckgo is a good overall but the thing is that a lot of those results don't have much relevance compared to google.

That is what people are complaining, what Weinberg said is users claiming he is deliberately hiding results of search in the name of disinformation.
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Re: DuckDuckGo Controversy

Postby skysnap » 15 Mar 2022, 12:03

Not sure about that part. As long as I ask something and sends me that data is good enough. I don't want obviously good content being overtken in the name of politics and fake news. whats fact is fact should be indexed by search engine.
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Re: DuckDuckGo Controversy

Postby ptrikha21 » 16 Mar 2022, 19:19

Yugocean wrote:
ptrikha21 wrote:The way the...
is a kind of political stand which such sites normally do not take.

Controversy is actually used to make itself popular, many business groups boycotted Russia to get into .....


Yes, that cannot be ruled out as well!
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Re: DuckDuckGo Controversy

Postby MysticMoons » 17 Mar 2022, 00:09

I am surprised google did not do this first. They are the ones who censor usually...
I think duckduckgo is good. But they probably doing what they think is right
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Re: DuckDuckGo Controversy

Postby Netherrealmer » 17 Mar 2022, 00:25

People opposing are most like Paid trolls from the Phillippines,China and Russia paid by Russian Government.Putin is friends with Winnie the Pooh and DoDirty.
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Re: DuckDuckGo Controversy

Postby Yugocean » 17 Mar 2022, 08:02

MysticMoons wrote:I am surprised google did not do this first. They are the ones who censor usually...

Google never inform it's activities.

Netherrealmer wrote:People opposing are most like Paid trolls from the Phillippines,China and Russia paid by Russian Government.Putin is friends with Winnie the Pooh and DoDirty.

Not really, Putin has no money to pay for trolling. One cannot get a full.pucture without understanding both sides.
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Re: DuckDuckGo Controversy

Postby Netherrealmer » 17 Mar 2022, 09:34

The trolls already admitted before actually. Also People from the Phillippines have no reasons to defend Russia, they have no relationship nor history. Putin is a client of cambridge analytica. He had the money to pay trolls.Russian Ruble can go far in China and the Phillippines.
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Re: DuckDuckGo Controversy

Postby Yugocean » 22 Mar 2022, 06:53

Trolls are posting jokes, even including Putin, they post it for fun. Why a govt will pay trolls - I don't have any idea.
Normally only some 3rd party which have benefits can do that.
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Re: DuckDuckGo Controversy

Postby Netherrealmer » 22 Mar 2022, 13:09

Yugocean wrote:Trolls are posting jokes, even including Putin, they post it for fun. Why a govt will pay trolls - I don't have any idea.
Normally only some 3rd party which have benefits can do that.


Paid trolls spread propaganda. Look at the Phillippines because of trolls, A son of a dictator is winning the Presidential surveys even if he didnt pay billions of taxes, He never finished his education, and his family stole billions of dollars and killed thousands of people. propaganda manage to flip the narrative. That is what trolls do. it's easier for them to spread misinformation because News sites consumes data but Facebook dont. Paid trolls are real, They can make an evil politician look like an angel and make a Good politician look bad. Paid trolls helped a Military coup in Myanmar. Mind conditioning the masses that a certain side is a majority works. They are paid 9 cents per post. They just copy paste their scripts. A single paid troll operates at least 30 to 100 facebook accounts.

Paid trolls help people in power maintain power. Paid trolls makes politicians brainwash the masses for a cheap price. They don't need to pay people to vote for them. They just brainwash them.



Putin also paid trolls to make Trump win in 2016.
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Re: DuckDuckGo Controversy

Postby Yugocean » 23 Mar 2022, 06:54

In India too, politicians pay trolls to promote their parties; although this is now going to be against them because Trolls are always exposed.
If Browsers will hide reports, then you will get only one side news, this is an easy go for trolls. Otherwise nobody pays them.
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Re: DuckDuckGo Controversy

Postby Netherrealmer » 25 Mar 2022, 15:38

They are effective thats why politicians still pays them. Running a troll farm is cheaper than paying political advertisement on TV. Look how Brainwashed the Maga crowd in America. Trump is their Jesus just because someone on Facebook told them so. Russia also used paid trolls to make Democrat Americans favor Biden who is incompetent, sexual assaulter and senile over younger and more competent leaders like Corey Booker, Pete Buttigieg etc. Duck Duck Go Go hides them while they thrive in Google because they are good in SEO.
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Re: DuckDuckGo Controversy

Postby Yugocean » 26 Mar 2022, 06:00

Trolls are normally paid in social media, DDG cannot hide them, in India trolls are used by all sides, and they declare other people as paid troll whoever disagree with them. I am experienced by these, not only political parties, but business entities, even bad organization are doing this type of game.
There is team of such trolls which are paid to influence voters, this isn't hiding.
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Re: DuckDuckGo Controversy

Postby Netherrealmer » 26 Mar 2022, 07:25

Yugocean wrote:Trolls are normally paid in social media, DDG cannot hide them, in India trolls are used by all sides, and they declare other people as paid troll whoever disagree with them. I am experienced by these, not only political parties, but business entities, even bad organization are doing this type of game.
There is team of such trolls which are paid to influence voters, this isn't hiding.


I think this one focuses in America. These companies don't care about the fake news not involving Western countries. That's why misinformation still happens while they combat fake news in US and Europe.
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Re: DuckDuckGo Controversy

Postby GuestHu » 26 Mar 2022, 13:39

Netherrealmer wrote:Look at the Phillippines because of trolls, A son of a dictator is winning the Presidential surveys even if he didnt pay billions of taxes, He never finished his education, and his family stole billions of dollars and killed thousands of people. propaganda manage to flip the narrative.

They can revise history too. It is heartbreaking to see my family members, co-workers, and other friends vote for that spoiled-brat candidate who has no concrete plan for this country. Seeing how effective fake news can persuade a lot of uneducated people, many politicians take advantage of these people and hired trolls to disseminate misinformation about their enemy and about themselves.
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Re: DuckDuckGo Controversy

Postby skysnap » 27 Mar 2022, 05:45

I wonder where the datacenter of the DDG is and how they manage the data relevant enough to show. like they must be using some sort of data engine otherwise giving accurate results without the same is impossible.
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Re: DuckDuckGo Controversy

Postby GuestHu » 27 Mar 2022, 12:07

DDG is not like facebook where anyone can post their websites or their opinions so there is less misinformation on that site. Perhaps, they have a quite good algorithm that shows relevant topics and it uses a web crawler, a bot that finds relevant information in the web-wide world. And websites that have good SEO will likely appear on the top of the search lists.
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