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Re: China's social rating system, A scary dystopian 1984 meets Nosedive

Postby Netherrealmer » 15 Aug 2019, 17:17

No wonder Hong Kong wants independence now. I don't think the Hong Kees wanted to be involved with this dystopian system. Chinese internet is currently dominate by Hong Kong.
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Re: China's social rating system, A scary dystopian 1984 meets Nosedive

Postby Love_to_sleep » 13 Sep 2019, 10:31

Not sure why people are mocking it, calling it dystopian etc. Government wants to discipline its citizen and since when discipline became dystopian?

The only problem as it appears from the long post is that it is prone to misuse. Agree with that. This could be a big concern. Specially, if you haven't disciplined yourself but only want someone else to rate you high OR if you rate based on certain assumptions you made.

Humans have bias and prejudice. You can't persuade them to rate someone in unbiased manner just based on current behavior. Chinese government should find a solution to that. It is logical that human intervention needs to be minimised to avoid misuse. When you have CCTV to check on everyone, why do you need humans to rate each other? Government could be focused on automation. Let a Robot observe you and rate you as per the standards.

Further, a rating could be average based. So, 100 people rate you 4 each and 1 rates 5, you get (4x100 + 5 = 405) / 101 = 4.0099 points. If someone else rates 3, your ratings drop to (4x100 + 5 + 3)/102 = 4 again. This way, few bad ratings don't send you to hell.

Those who living outside China need not react so badly to the idea. Give government some time to correct its mistakes and refine the system.
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Re: China's social rating system, A scary dystopian 1984 meets Nosedive

Postby ptrikha21 » 13 Sep 2019, 10:44

Actually, some of the things like low score for smoking, and a few more things is good, but low ratings by others???
Well, even someone's relative or an ex-lover could give someone a low score.
And why target sweets??
Yes, a bit scary!!
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Re: China's social rating system, A scary dystopian 1984 meets Nosedive

Postby jackchun » 17 Oct 2019, 12:54

I haven't heard of this social rating system implemented in China that I live in Hong Kong, but I don't know if they secretly doing that
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Re: China's social rating system, A scary dystopian 1984 meets Nosedive

Postby Netherrealmer » 17 Oct 2019, 13:18

jackchun wrote:I haven't heard of this social rating system implemented in China that I live in Hong Kong, but I don't know if they secretly doing that
They are already testing it in some mainland cities but not yet in Hong Kong, I mean Hong Kongers are currently protesting for their rights.
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Re: China's social rating system, A scary dystopian 1984 meets Nosedive

Postby jackchun » 17 Oct 2019, 20:55

yes, two months ago some racist in Hong Kong just destroyed one of this device to protect our city
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Re: China's social rating system, A scary dystopian 1984 meets Nosedive

Postby Netherrealmer » 18 Oct 2019, 08:23

jackchun wrote:yes, two months ago some racist in Hong Kong just destroyed one of this device to protect our city
Do you think you can live a life of trying to behave good all the time scared of annoying people so you won't lose points? From What I know Hong Kong will be exempted for now.
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Re: China's social rating system, A scary dystopian 1984 meets Nosedive

Postby jackchun » 18 Oct 2019, 09:39

hk will be exempted from this until the most latest time of year 2047
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Re: China's social rating system, A scary dystopian 1984 meets Nosedive

Postby MysticMoons » 18 Oct 2019, 22:50

They are evil for using this system.
China now makes everyone face scan just to get online!
that is slavery!
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Re: China's social rating system, A scary dystopian 1984 meets Nosedive

Postby jackchun » 18 Oct 2019, 23:51

so now Hong Kong has a few months of radical protests and many foreign countries support them
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Re: China's social rating system, A scary dystopian 1984 meets Nosedive

Postby MysticMoons » 19 Oct 2019, 02:53

That is good HOng Kong and every country needs to resist China's evil program.
We know they are evil.
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Re: China's social rating system, A scary dystopian 1984 meets Nosedive

Postby jackchun » 28 Oct 2019, 23:56

Any more places that their governments set social rating system like in China ?
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Re: China's social rating system, A scary dystopian 1984 meets Nosedive

Postby MysticMoons » 29 Oct 2019, 00:21

Nope China is the most evil. But their system must not be in all countries.
It's worse than what Hitler did or any slave master.
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Re: China's social rating system, A scary dystopian 1984 meets Nosedive

Postby jackchun » 30 Oct 2019, 04:24

I think that cannot compare with hilter otlr Japanese agression because they are abusing and killing civilians without reason
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Re: China's social rating system, A scary dystopian 1984 meets Nosedive

Postby Netherrealmer » 11 Nov 2019, 11:57

A stupid Australian politician wanted this system in Australia....



Australia use to be on the list of country where I want to immigrate.
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Re: China's social rating system, A scary dystopian 1984 meets Nosedive

Postby Angie10 » 11 Nov 2019, 12:08

That's beyond crazy! It's taking the Big Brother concept to an altogether scary level. These are the sorts of things that make me a lot more appreciative of where I live. I personally wouldn't be happy about that at all. But then again, if that's all you've ever known, you probably think it's normal.
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Re: China's social rating system, A scary dystopian 1984 meets Nosedive

Postby Netherrealmer » 11 Nov 2019, 12:11

We live in a day and age where people don't understand mental disorder. A person with mental disorder like ADHD will be seen as annoying by many people and that poor person will get a lot of negative points because of a condition they cant control. They have mannerisms ordinary people will never understand.
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Re: China's social rating system, A scary dystopian 1984 meets Nosedive

Postby mrki444 » 11 Nov 2019, 12:51

MysticMoons wrote:Nope China is the most evil. But their system must not be in all countries.
It's worse than what Hitler did or any slave master.


I think North Korea is worst than China.
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Re: China's social rating system, A scary dystopian 1984 meets Nosedive

Postby Lushh » 17 Nov 2019, 19:57

fergus1234 wrote:We live in a day and age where people don't understand mental disorder. A person with mental disorder like ADHD will be seen as annoying by many people and that poor person will get a lot of negative points because of a condition they cant control. They have mannerisms ordinary people will never understand.

That's very true and it's easy to judge what you don't understand. Unless special consideration is given to their situation, the system wouldn't work in their favour.
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Re: China's social rating system, A scary dystopian 1984 meets Nosedive

Postby Netherrealmer » 18 Nov 2019, 12:27

With Bernie being a socialist, I can see him implementing this system in the US.
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