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brands and devices carrying planned obsolescence

Postby Pousinha » 30 Jan 2021, 20:33

This issue was just quickly touched into other topics, but I think it deserves an entire thread, especially for the sake of users not having money to burn. I suppose the majority of users know that especially during the last decades, devices are manufactured to die quickly. Good-bye to those dear old telephones that last 10 and more years. I still own a very old Nokia (C3 model, if I don't mistake: it can run the web -only if the chip is recharged-, but no apps, no play store, no Android nor IOS) that this year will become 12 years old. And it still works :o . But we cannot say the same about smartphones and i-phones. We cannot say the same about most PCs and notebook brands.

In any way...: do you know if still exist a brand that manufactures durable devices? Maybe Nokia? Unfortunately Nokia doesn't sell products in Brasil (at least, not out of the industrialized federal capitals as S. Paulo).

One of the reasons of planned obsolescence is the companies are afraid of bankruptcy (even I'm doubtful this may apply to Apple or Microsoft :? ), but in any way, it would be the pennyless users going broken instead of the companies. Underpaid workmen, housewives, students and unemployed can't waste money each couple of years to buy new device cause planned obsolescence. Any way out?
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Re: brands and devices carrying planned obsolescence

Postby ptrikha21 » 09 May 2021, 16:02

Hark back to 2000s. Initial mobile phones (now called as feature phones) bought by most people were of Nokia brand. The second preferred brand was Motorola, later bought by Lenovo.
Now where are they?
And once smartphones became common, most people talk of Apple iPhones, Samsung, Redmi, One Plus, Vivo etc.
And the planned obsolescence can be tricky at times.
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Re: brands and devices carrying planned obsolescence

Postby Pousinha » 09 May 2021, 18:10

Nokia makes smartphones too: the only matter is unfortunately Nokia doesn't sell these smartphones between all countries. I miss this brand, as in my geographic area I can't find Nokia smartphones. Motorola is still selling in Brazil, as Lenovo sells PCs and notebooks here.
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Re: brands and devices carrying planned obsolescence

Postby nela13 » 10 May 2021, 11:59

Pousinha wrote:Nokia makes smartphones too: the only matter is unfortunately Nokia doesn't sell these smartphones between all countries. I miss this brand, as in my geographic area I can't find Nokia smartphones. Motorola is still selling in Brazil, as Lenovo sells PCs and notebooks here.

We can find Nokia smartphones for sale here but I think the company followed the same tendency as other brands and their devices no longer last as long as they used to.
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Re: brands and devices carrying planned obsolescence

Postby Netherrealmer » 11 Jun 2021, 09:49

Apple have planned obsolescence. It is hard to get their devices repaired and they made parts expensive so people will rather buy a new unit.
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Re: brands and devices carrying planned obsolescence

Postby Pousinha » 11 Jun 2021, 17:03

I never purchased an Apple device. The prices are shamefully high. My sister-in-law purchased an Apple i-phone to only discover the related play store only presents paid items. Nothing similar to the free stuff we find into the Google Play Store. What a disappointment.
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Re: brands and devices carrying planned obsolescence

Postby bestwriter » 15 Jun 2021, 02:21

That is the game manufacturers play. How else will they be in business? Sad part is that they do not even have spare parts for their older models making them redundant and forcing users to go for their upgraded model.
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Re: brands and devices carrying planned obsolescence

Postby Pousinha » 15 Jun 2021, 22:01

bestwriter wrote:Sad part is that they do not even have spare parts for their older models making them redundant and forcing users to go for their upgraded model.


That's a big point. Companies want us to spend, spend, spend, no matter if we are billionaires, 9 to 5 employed, workmen or dependent family members. And moreover, I think big multinational companies like Apple don't need too many tricks to maintain their business.
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Re: brands and devices carrying planned obsolescence

Postby arunima » 16 Jun 2021, 10:17

It's actually planned obsolescence. And it is definitely a trick to stay in business. I remember my first mobile was Nokia and it lasted for years and I still have it. I had to go for Motorola for the only reason that I needed a smartphone. My Nokia fall survived so many drops and even a few minutes sink in swimming pool. I still have it. Even my Motorola stayed with me for years before it was stolen. And since then I have had few phones and none lasted more than two years. Nowadays it is better to replace a phone than to get it repaired.
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Re: brands and devices carrying planned obsolescence

Postby Pousinha » 17 Jun 2021, 01:36

I'm sorry for these happenings, especially your Motorola stolen :( . In my case, I never go out with my A9 due to the reality of continuous armed robberies in Latin America. And programmed obsolescence made my no brand cheap mobile to bite the dust after 20 months only :( . Only few drops of water and it didn't resist. Now I go out with a very old Nokia 12 years old and still alive (it's not a smartphone), waiting the next black friday to purchase a Xiaomi.
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