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The first electric vehicles

Postby mrki444 » 09 Sep 2022, 17:33

Did you know that the first electric vehicles were invented hundreds of years ago? They were in full use for years and were not hybrids. They were used for different purposes - from transporting people to transporting cargo.
Here is an image of an old charge station.
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This is an image of an electric car from 1907.
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Did you know that the first functional electric vehicles were invented so early?
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Re: The first electric vehicles

Postby oldbuddy » 09 Sep 2022, 17:48

I am seriously keeping my eye open for a deal on a 3 wheel electric trike for running erands while my wife has the car at work. Brand new they are $1,000 to $3,000, but I am still looking. The best part is they do not need to be registered with Motor Vehicles (saving me over $100/year) and there is no manditory insurance law for their lower values and less damage in fewer accidents, all statistics in my favor. Most of them even have charging with 110 Volt household plugs, or I am seeing some reaching into Solar Charging on the roof for free to extend the charge periods.

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Re: The first electric vehicles

Postby mrki444 » 10 Sep 2022, 10:13

oldbuddy wrote:What do you think?


I looked about it to but my problem is charging. I live on 4th floor of buiding. Space below is not enough for it and we don't have socket below. Also I drive between villages, 20km in one way, road is often dirty and fog is common because of river. I am not sure how long would last driving it during winter.

I looked in this two models. Both must be registered and you need B type of driver license.
First can drive 120km with 60km/h speed. Price 3350$.
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Second is almost double expensive but it can go up to 90km/h and 120km range. Price 5350$
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Re: The first electric vehicles

Postby peachpurple » 10 Sep 2022, 12:57

Wow, i did not know that electric vehicles were invented before i was born! That means people in the past era are much smarter than now. Here we are still using petrol instead of electric
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Re: The first electric vehicles

Postby oldbuddy » 10 Sep 2022, 22:59

You are in a different league than I am. I just bought one used for $830 that needs no license or registration but only has a 20 mile range at 12 MPH, so it's just going to be for short shopping trips or entertainment rides.

https://www.libertytrike.com/
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Re: The first electric vehicles

Postby Treborika » 11 Sep 2022, 08:57

I can't wait to buy it as soon as it's available in my country.
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Re: The first electric vehicles

Postby mrki444 » 11 Sep 2022, 19:43

oldbuddy wrote:You are in a different league than I am. I just bought one used for $830 that needs no license or registration but only has a 20 mile range at 12 MPH, so it's just going to be for short shopping trips or entertainment rides.

https://www.libertytrike.com/


I live in very small town and old major stores are very close, like few minutes walk. So I could not use it for such things. I like more walk than drive anything around for entertainment.
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Re: The first electric vehicles

Postby oldbuddy » 13 Sep 2022, 23:47

mrki444 wrote:
oldbuddy wrote:You are in a different league than I am. I just bought one used for $830 that needs no license or registration but only has a 20 mile range at 12 MPH, so it's just going to be for short shopping trips or entertainment rides.

https://www.libertytrike.com/


I live in very small town and old major stores are very close, like few minutes walk. So I could not use it for such things. I like more walk than drive anything around for entertainment.

I live on Bull Mountain in Oregon and I could never walk anywhere of interest without collapsing, but I can use pedal assist to navigate easily on my electric bike.
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Re: The first electric vehicles

Postby Netherrealmer » 14 Sep 2022, 16:56

There are also inventors of water fuel vehicles and they got murdered/sabotaged for it. Elon got the advantage of being a billionaire from Paypal when he funded Tesla so he didn't get sabotaged.
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Re: The first electric vehicles

Postby raaman » 15 Sep 2022, 00:58

Electric vehicles are climate-friendly, I think.
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Re: The first electric vehicles

Postby mrki444 » 18 Sep 2022, 17:39

I can't 100% be sure, but this could be image of electric train from 1896 with 28 seats and 14 standing place. It is made by W. Siemens.
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Re: The first electric vehicles

Postby oldbuddy » 22 Sep 2022, 21:58

This brings back many fond memories of living in Los Angeles in the 50's and riding streetcars all the time.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016 ... ar-scandal
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Re: The first electric vehicles

Postby OldGuy » 23 Sep 2022, 04:16

mrki444 wrote:Here is an image of an old charge station.


While it is true that there were some electric cars in the early 1900s, you picked a wrong car for your first image. The display is of the AMC Gremlin (also American Motors Gremlin). A subcompact automobile introduced in 1970, manufactured and marketed in a single, two-door body style (1970–1978) by American Motors Corporation (AMC), as well as in Mexico (1974–1978) by AMC's Vehículos Automotores. Source: AMC Gremlin - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMC_Gremlin


I saw many Gremlin cars on the road back then, but never saw an electric model. This particular image must be a specially modified version. The image of the charging station you used was also in the 1970s. There were rare special local charging stations in a few select large cities, but in general, there were no public charging stations in the 70s and not likely at all before that. The network of public charging stations has only been showing up in the latest 25 years.

I did see a few rare electric cars on the road over the last 60 years or so, but every one of the owners that I met and spoke to about them had their own charging station at their own homes and were limited to 20 to something less than 50 mile range. They were only good for local short distance commuter cars.
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Re: The first electric vehicles

Postby mrki444 » 24 Sep 2022, 16:12

This is a plan of first truck with electric engine. It was developed by Robert Davidson, Scotland investor in 1837. It was 4.9 meter long. So almost 200 years we have electric trucks. Of those can't satisfied today request, but imagine what would be have if we continue development as we do now.
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Re: The first electric vehicles

Postby oldbuddy » 24 Sep 2022, 16:35

mrki444 wrote:This is a plan of first truck with electric engine. It was developed by Robert Davidson, Scotland investor in 1837. It was 4.9 meter long. So almost 200 years we have electric trucks. Of those can't satisfied today request, but imagine what would be have if we continue development as we do now.

Doesn't look like much for driver comfort.
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Re: The first electric vehicles

Postby mrki444 » 24 Sep 2022, 17:07

This one have, at least for that time.

Electric truck for milk delivery. 100 years older than Cybertruck, from 1900's. Range was 50 miles.
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Re: The first electric vehicles

Postby ptrikha21 » 25 Sep 2022, 15:09

That is something very interesting! I wonder why Electric vehicles did not take off much.
Was it a stiff competition from External and Internal Combustion engines, lack of finance or may be some other reasons.
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Re: The first electric vehicles

Postby mrki444 » 25 Sep 2022, 17:38

ptrikha21 wrote: I wonder why Electric vehicles did not take off much.


Most people say oil was very cheap and this was reason why most started by diesel and petrol cars. I guess oil companys did some campaigns and lobbying. In that time people belive oil will last forever.
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Re: The first electric vehicles

Postby jobless dude » 29 Sep 2022, 21:22

There were electric vehicles before long time but most of them failed due to battery recharging time and pricing.
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Postby mrki444 » 01 Oct 2022, 14:11

jobless dude wrote:There were electric vehicles before long time but most of them failed due to battery recharging time and pricing.


I guess they would solve that problem investing in better electric grid and stronger chargers. But in those days life was much slower and you were not in hurry as now so I don't think longer charging was biggest issues for electric cars.
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