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Java is THE worst invention ever

Postby cashforuonline » 29 Oct 2015, 15:42

I totally hate Java. It is NEVER up to date on my computer, and I always have trouble when trying to do stuff like print coupons, especially on Firefox. And then to make things worse, the sites that use the ridiculous program won't even work at all on the latest version of Chrome, because I guess Chrome must not be compatible with it. So that forces me to have to update Java, just to get the coupons I want. It is so annoying, and a waste of time and data.
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Re: Java is THE worst invention ever

Postby Fergal » 30 Oct 2015, 19:11

On the positive side Java is a hugely powerful programming language and is found on most computers and computer devices :) I know how it feels to have the hassle of regularly updating Java on a PC, because something won't work without the latest version.

Does it take you long to upgrade? If you are having specific issues with the upgrades, describe them here and some of our members may be able to help you.
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Re: Java is THE worst invention ever

Postby Detox842 » 30 Oct 2015, 20:14

Fergal wrote:On the positive side Java is a hugely powerful programming language and is found on most computers and computer devices :) I know how it feels to have the hassle of regularly updating Java on a PC, because something won't work without the latest version.

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cashforuonline wrote:I totally hate Java. It is NEVER up to date on my computer, and I always have trouble when trying to do stuff like print coupons, especially on Firefox. And then to make things worse, the sites that use the ridiculous program won't even work at all on the latest version of Chrome, because I guess Chrome must not be compatible with it. So that forces me to have to update Java, just to get the coupons I want. It is so annoying, and a waste of time and data.


Your both right.. it's great and horrible at the same time..
If your a programmer, it's an amazing tool.. if your a user, it could be the biggest pain in the ass...
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Re: Java is THE worst invention ever

Postby oldbuddy » 30 Oct 2015, 21:03

The only major problem I have lately is one of the traffic exchanges I use daily has one page running with four dancing 125 X 125 banners and it freezes up everything except the ridiculous dancing banners, I can't for the life of me understand why the advertiser thinks dancing banners are going to get people to take action, but I couldn't if I wanted to. My guess is my particular system somewhere is at fault, but I need to totally reboot every time it starts.
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Re: Java is THE worst invention ever

Postby cashforuonline » 30 Oct 2015, 21:41

Fergal wrote:On the positive side Java is a hugely powerful programming language and is found on most computers and computer devices :) I know how it feels to have the hassle of regularly updating Java on a PC, because something won't work without the latest version.

Does it take you long to upgrade? If you are having specific issues with the upgrades, describe them here and some of our members may be able to help you.

It doesn't necessarily take me a long time to upgrade, but it uses data, and since I have a small data allowance with my internet service, that can be a problem. Plus, I never know it needs updating until I go to do something like print coupons, and then it's a real hassle having to update it before I can do what I set out to do.
oldbuddy wrote:The only major problem I have lately is one of the traffic exchanges I use daily has one page running with four dancing 125 X 125 banners and it freezes up everything except the ridiculous dancing banners, I can't for the life of me understand why the advertiser thinks dancing banners are going to get people to take action, but I couldn't if I wanted to. My guess is my particular system somewhere is at fault, but I need to totally reboot every time it starts.

Those dancing ads would get me to action, but not the action they intended! I'd just get frustrated and close out the site, and put that advertiser on my boycott list! Especially if I had to actually reboot the computer!
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Re: Java is THE worst invention ever

Postby Abakane » 31 Oct 2015, 08:29

The idea of write only one time and run wherever you want is awesome but how it was implemented is not that awesome. Hope in the future that will be fixed or some better version will be available.
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Re: Java is THE worst invention ever

Postby maiconfacchini » 31 Oct 2015, 13:38

I hate java for a simple reason : work. I attend several customers that have problems at least once a week with java . Each update is a despair , problems always happen..
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Re: Java is THE worst invention ever

Postby Happyland » 31 Oct 2015, 15:23

Java is actually quite useful for many applications. You will benefit from updating java. It is important for security purposes and to keep up with enhancements so that you will enjoy a better experience. I agree using data is a problem.
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Re: Java is THE worst invention ever

Postby darkthorn » 31 Oct 2015, 17:04

cashforuonline wrote:I totally hate Java. It is NEVER up to date on my computer, and I always have trouble when trying to do stuff like print coupons, especially on Firefox. And then to make things worse, the sites that use the ridiculous program won't even work at all on the latest version of Chrome, because I guess Chrome must not be compatible with it. So that forces me to have to update Java, just to get the coupons I want. It is so annoying, and a waste of time and data.


The problem with Java and Chrome is that Java plug-in relies on the cross platform plug-in architecture NPAPI and Google's dropped the support for NPAPI (Netscape Plug-in API) since Chrome version 45. For the same reason Google also disabled Silverlight from Microsoft. There is a work-around to enable this plug-in in Chrome versions higher than version 45, you will find it if you Google it.

Java vulnerabilities lead Cisco to report in 2014 that 91% of all the attacks had java as a primary cause. Meanwhile this vulnerabilities have been reduced but even though Java stills a huge risk to our PC's. This is the reason why you should always keep Java updated, only install it if you really need it. As for me I don't have Java installed on my PC because I don't need it and I don't like to take unnecessary risks. Even the last Java version has a backdoor which is there by design and is well known to the hackers.
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Re: Java is THE worst invention ever

Postby Hugop » 31 Oct 2015, 18:57

You all talk bad about Java but there are many other "almost unknown" languages that have higher issues. Java is a powerful programing language and JavaScript the most used scripting language in almost every website.
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Re: Java is THE worst invention ever

Postby darkthorn » 31 Oct 2015, 19:04

Hugop wrote:You all talk bad about Java but there are many other "almost unknown" languages that have higher issues. Java is a powerful programing language and JavaScript the most used scripting language in almost every website.


Is not a question of talking bad but it is precisely Java's power that makes it dangerous. Like any tool everything depends of what you want to do with it, as powerfull the tool as more damage it can cause if you have the proper knowledge to use it. So if Java vulnerabilities are not 100% fixed you still have a language that can be use to damage your PC why it is normal to feel afraid of it I think.
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Re: Java is THE worst invention ever

Postby Abakane » 31 Oct 2015, 19:06

Hugop wrote:You all talk bad about Java but there are many other "almost unknown" languages that have higher issues. Java is a powerful programing language and JavaScript the most used scripting language in almost every website.

What does Java has to do with JavaScript ?
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Re: Java is THE worst invention ever

Postby darkthorn » 02 Nov 2015, 11:25

quote="Abakane"]
Hugop wrote:You all talk bad about Java but there are many other "almost unknown" languages that have higher issues. Java is a powerful programming language and JavaScript the most used scripting language in almost every website.

What does Java has to do with JavaScript ?[/quote]

Java is an Object Oriented Programming (OOP) language and Javascript is a scripting language developed by Netscape. Both languages have a similar structure, however JavaScript contains a much smaller and simpler set of commands than does Java. Being an OOP (Object Oriented Programming) Java allows you to create stand alone "objects", pieces of code that will work together as a whole. Imagine you are building a boat, you build the engine first. It can stand alone. It is an engine and everyone can see it's an engine. Next you build the body. It can also stand alone. Finally, you build the interior including the seats, steering wheel, etc. Each, by itself is a object. But it is not a fully functioning boat until all the pieces are put together. The sum of the objects (parts) make up the whole.

The main difference between Java and Javascript is that Java can stand on its own, you can create stand alone applications with it, while JavaScript must be placed inside an HTML document to function, which means that Javascript code runs in the browser. On the other hand Java must be compiled into what is known as a "machine language" before it can be run on the Web.

Both languages allow you to create great web page events. Both can offer interaction between the user and your Web page. If you would like to know more about this subject check this webpage:

http://www.seguetech.com/blog/2013/02/1 ... javascript
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Re: Java is THE worst invention ever

Postby win123 » 02 Nov 2015, 11:38

I agree with you (cashforuonline). I always have problems with java.
some times the problems are because is up to date or need to put a site with except :(
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Re: Java is THE worst invention ever

Postby cessy_08 » 03 Nov 2015, 09:04

Constantly updating Java plugins can be a pain and I know I hate to do that, too. However, similar to other forum posters here, Java can be a good/bad programming language. Personally, I have a love/hate relationship with it. We used to use COBOL as the programming language for our software, but some clients find COBOL obsolete and difficult to find any programmers these days to do the work in case of a system upgrade. Hence, they feel that if they use our software, they have to remain contractually obligated to us. So our company decided to update all the modules of our software and they selected Java as the programming language to use. Of course, the conversion did not occur without any hiccups and technical issues, we still have them. But by having Java, most clients feel secure that they can find other programmers/implementors who can take on our jobs after deployment.
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Re: Java is THE worst invention ever

Postby vcolaco » 03 Nov 2015, 12:10

The usage that browsers and applications make of Java is really far from optimal. The language has little to no fault on that, it having serious work providing with complex applications with quality :)

I'd rather nag about the growing crappiness in browser "evolution"
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Re: Java is THE worst invention ever

Postby cashforuonline » 05 Nov 2015, 02:47

vcolaco wrote:The usage that browsers and applications make of Java is really far from optimal. The language has little to no fault on that, it having serious work providing with complex applications with quality :)

I'd rather nag about the growing crappiness in browser "evolution"

Well, that could be, but I always have so much trouble with it, whether it is Java's fault or the browser's fault, that I just wish it didn't exist! Even half the time when I try to update it, I get an error saying it couldn't update. Or it'll tell me I have the latest edition. So then why does it say I need to update if I already have the latest version!?
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Re: Java is THE worst invention ever

Postby tomford » 11 Nov 2015, 07:20

I don't even have java I rarely run across any site that uses it and the few I do encounter seem to still work when I ignore prompts to download it. its just like quicktime ..no one uses that anymore either it seems the only thing we really really need is Adobe flash player and shockwave
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Re: Java is THE worst invention ever

Postby nakitakona » 11 Nov 2015, 07:42

This is heavy. I am a bit offended upon reading from the title that Java (programming) is worst technology ever invented. To generalize it is too dangerous.

Sun Microsystems developed this in 1996 for software development and for the computing environment. In short, to make things done as far computing applications are concerned.

For 19 years, a big leap and improvement in operating system and applications in various computer platforms was realized. And it is easy to be adapted. It is easy to make an upgrade to enhance efficiency in every Internet browsers.

It is not indeed a disaster to every computer job and works.
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Re: Java is THE worst invention ever

Postby germainebull » 18 May 2016, 08:47

I feel you :(

Can you try to get around this?

For instance, can you install compatible software on your device?
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