[SUPERSINGH]

I feel it will be a good thing if members who have more than 500 reputations should get more FC for their post, Like we all get 1.5 FC per post in Business Money and Wealth section for our first 10 posts of the day and these can be increased to 2 FC per comment for the members who have more than 500 reputations.

What do you think? Please share.

[friendociate]

No.

Unless ... will advertisers somehow PAY FORUMCOIN-INC. MORE MONEY if you have over 500 Reputation Points? Because THAT is 'how much our posts are worth'---if more Forum Coins are awarded, each one FC will be worth less!

[OldGuy]

After having studied the reputation point program on ForumCoin for the past several months, I have to disagree on this premise.

The reputation points are only an opinion of other members. Although higher quality content tends to have more reputation points, there have been many high quality posts that never got the recognition they deserved and there have been many low quality posts that received a positive reputation point with out merit. By themselves, reputation points do not provide a true picture of quality.

Over time, most members do gain positive reputation points for their higher quality posts, but that is not the entire picture. Someone who has only provided 100 posts but has collected 10 reputation posts appears to be providing higher quality content than someone who has provided 1000 posts and still only has 10 reputation points.

A reputation "score" can be seen quite quickly by dividing the total number of reputation points by the total number of posts and reading the results as a percentage. The overall average for all members for the life of ForumCoin is just under 10%. The reputation scores for those who have posted content in the last 30 days average almost a full percentage point higher. If your percentage is lower than 10%, the rest of the community is telling you that you need to do better, at least in their collective opinion. Any negative reputation point is more like screaming that you need to do better.

At the very least, you need to consider that volume of posts before making a determination of content deserving a higher pay grade, and even then, there needs to be some consideration of the content quality itself, which this site currently does not consider.

There needs to be more than just reputation points involved for any consideration of any higher pay scale, and there needs to be some form of successful advertising to fund any pay raise before it can be considered. For now, be glad that Fergal seems to have deep pockets and is very generous, since he is paying everyone at a loss.

You would have better success at getting a raise if you personally come up with some form of added revenue to provide the funds needed to cover that increased expense.

[Sam]

My personal view is that higher quality posts should receive more FC$ than lower quality posts, partly because higher quality posting would increase traffic and advertiser revenue.
But:

1. Does a fixed reputation of 500 mean you're producing good posts? No. It only means you have been here a while or have posted a lot.
2. Does reputation relate to good posting? In part. There is a correlation between reputation and posts that are more "readable" and longer. Reputation is often given as a sign of thanks as well... and it used to be given in the games section..
3. ForumCoin needs to increase revenue before considering increases in payments to members.

[SUPERSINGH]

Thanks to all for replying to this thread, You all are right, more reputations cannot guarantee that the person deserves to earn more fc per post.

[simplyfred]

That's interesting, my friend. 500 Reputation is quite hard to reach though... Ha ha. Congrats fro having them.

[ptrikha21]

My personal view is that higher quality posts should receive more FC$ than lower quality posts, partly because higher quality posting would increase traffic and advertiser revenue.
But:

1. Does a fixed reputation of 500 mean you're producing good posts? No. It only means you have been here a while or have posted a lot.
2. Does reputation relate to good posting? In part. There is a correlation between reputation and posts that are more "readable" and longer. Reputation is often given as a sign of thanks as well... and it used to be given in the games section..
3. ForumCoin needs to increase revenue before considering increases in payments to members.

But we would need some kind of an "expert" to see if the post is of "High" quality!

[Sam]

But we would need some kind of an "expert" to see if the post is of "High" quality!

Not necessarily... When I studied posting quality on all public ForumCoin posts in 2017, I considered:
- Reputation
- Length of post/ word count
- Number of Sentences
- Readability or Grade level of post

I found these did give a pretty good indication (from what I could see) of post quality. I was very easily able to see who was making quality posts and who wasn't. Other measurable things could be included as well.

[spiderdust]

If reputation determined how much someone earned on here, then friends would constantly be bumping each others' reputations up so they could each make more coins. Post quality would drop. People would be more focused on how much they earned rather than the quality of their output (and that's already enough of a problem as it is).

It's really a poor idea.

[Happyland]

The reputation system is not very dependable. It can be misused, misunderstood or altogether forgotten. It can be under-utilized and over-utilized. IA reputation point does not always apply to every kind of post.

~Oftentimes a good post will add value to a thread but the post will not receive a reputation point.

~Friends and referrals sometimes like to give each other reputation points even if the post does not add tangible value or is of low quality.

~The games are a great idea. They are fun and add a new dimension to the forum. On the other hand games such as the random number generator-game contest will have many posts but generally such a game will attract low quality posts and thus will not result in a reputation point. Such high numbers of posts on this kind of game can have the unintended consequence of lowering someone's reputation-to-points stats.

Ultimately the reputation system is not a good basis for paying users more. Besides, paying users more is not a sustainable business model; especially when you intertwine the two together as suggested in the thread.

[talkerbee]

What do you think? Please share.

I guess giving bonuses to some members here who are actively contributing high quality posts should be awarded on this Yuletide season but it not be based on the reputation points. Reputation here is equivalent only to or . If agree, vote up. If not, vote down. It is good I think admin and moderators will select either top 10 or 20 members as an award for their great contribution here with a little FC rewards.

[nerdonforumcoin]

I have to disagree with the idea as well. If that will be implemented more users will abuse the reputation giving option/

[fistsworn]

Kinda? I mean I usually do like forums that offer perks like Premmium accounts.
Maybe pay a set ammount of dollars to thee site have a "Premium" account that does that?

[arunima]

I totally agree that higher reputation points does not assure that the user has always posted high quality posts. As mentioned by OldGuy, sometimes high quality posts are ignored while a less quality post would have reputation. It also depends on the ffollowing or number of friends that the user has. The more you have, you might get more reputation points despite of low quality posts.
This would have been a good idea if only one authorized person or admin could give reputation points. That would have been fair and unbiased.

[suny]

I had once suggested to admin to allow more full paid posts according to their reputation points. For instance a member having 500 reputation points could post 11 instead of 10 regular posts (1 extra post for every 500 reputation points). I am not in the race of posts as posting even 10 per day is not possible for me all the time (my average is less than 10)
@arunima I have no followers or friends on this site and I feel that makes no difference.

[arunima]

Having friends and followers can make a difference at times if not always. I wanted to say that it can be give and take system. You give me a thumbs up and I will reciprocate. I mean this might not be always the case but things can be abused especially if there is such offers.

[CyberFreak]

Ultimately the intention in the future (when I finally get this forum updated to the latest version of phpBB) is to have a "secret formula" to determine the value of a users post.

I have kinda planned this out how it will work but obviously not going to go into specifics about it otherwise users will find ways to abuse it. The idea is though that it will take loads of different data points (including reputation) and use that to determine a percentage of the base rate for a post. In other words a new user without no post history may get a percentage score of 90% for example so they will earn 90% of the usual post values. Obviously we have no data on them as they are new so we have to be cautious with rating them too high or too low. More active users with a history of making good posts could then earn 110% for example of the usual post rates meaning that they would earn more than now. Ultimately it would be fluid so if you are a bad member, you can improve and you will earn more and some of the negative "flags" disappears but equally if you are a good member and get to the point you are earning alot per post, you can't just drop your quality and carry on earning high. Basically it will see newer and bad members earn less and established and more higher quality members earn more which means that the FC we give out daily will be the same (pretty much) but just spread out to reward better content.

This will be some way off though. Like I said the forum software upgrade needs to happen first and while alot of that is done and while a couple of the things holding us back are sorted now thanks to time passing and other people updating modifications we use here to extensions, I think there is still one major thing holding us back at the moment. Ideally we don't want to upgrade and lose features or drastically change the user experience.

[jobless dude]

In my point of view reputation points should be stopped. It can lead spammers to make a fake and exchange reputation points. But so far I am genuine in this and giving a like if I really loved their posts.

[skysnap]

I'd rather love to see the site getting ads above the fold area and making revenue instead of this reputation based rewards.

[oldbuddy]

My vote is NO, it's bad enough already and that would just encourage more posting garbage to get more pennies.