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Re: Hubpages VS Vocal Media - which one would you choose?

Postby skysnap » 02 Jul 2020, 21:05

Coolvibez wrote:AdSense earning varies on your location and traffic quality , I think people with traffic from tier 1 countries could earn more with quality traffic


True but he is blatantly saying adsense earns low because he could not write better blog posts.

I have written since 2007 on hubpages and I have done lot better with adsense and blogs combo. The thing is mysticmoon is not being honest about he is yet to get paid from the vocal media. He is just trying it like some of us here. He assumes that 1K views would be easy to get and also getting the revenue shared pool earning of 3.8 that is going to lead to 35 dollar payout is easier than adsense, which is again another assumption he has. Trust me knowing how much it takes time to accumulate views this is grind, it is slower than established adsense blog in off season.
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Re: Hubpages VS Vocal Media - which one would you choose?

Postby nela13 » 02 Jul 2020, 21:09

cmoneyspinner wrote:When I first started with HUBPages I was very active. I did what they call "HUB hopping". I got to know the community and the community got to know me. I would leave lots of engaging comments and they would be happy to interact with me. The writers would often return the favor by visiting my HUBs and leaving comments. Of course at that time, earning from Google Ad Sense was a lot easier. There were no Ad Blockers and stuff like that. I am not very active now but I do believe that it was because I was active in the beginning and HUBBERs got to know me, it helped my HUBs get on the radar. I earn passive income from my HUBs and since I don't really do much in the community any more, I'm happy with the earnings that trickle in. It's literally the only site where I have not published content in years, but I'm still getting paid for my writing.

I am trying to get to know the community, visit others hubs and leave comments as I know it can be a future investment but now they no longer have adsense and I think earnings aren't as easy as it used to.
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Re: Hubpages VS Vocal Media - which one would you choose?

Postby MysticMoons » 03 Jul 2020, 02:24

skysnap wrote:
Coolvibez wrote:AdSense earning varies on your location and traffic quality , I think people with traffic from tier 1 countries could earn more with quality traffic


True but he is blatantly saying adsense earns low because he could not write better blog posts.

I have written since 2007 on hubpages and I have done lot better with adsense and blogs combo. The thing is mysticmoon is not being honest about he is yet to get paid from the vocal media. He is just trying it like some of us here. He assumes that 1K views would be easy to get and also getting the revenue shared pool earning of 3.8 that is going to lead to 35 dollar payout is easier than adsense, which is again another assumption he has. Trust me knowing how much it takes time to accumulate views this is grind, it is slower than established adsense blog in off season.


Yeah man adsense is a low payer. A lot of people i know
who get alot of views from tier one countries get low pay.
I i did cash out a couple times from adsense in the past.
but that was all with youtube.
On blogs the ads are usually not very good anymore.
But on my blogs they link to vocal stuff and it earns me more.
Also adsense is 100 dollars min payout.

I make good blog posts get a lot of traffic. But
i will try again. If I get good pay I will let you know.
last time I checked the blog made me about one cent in June.
I will try to put more time into it.
But I just have a feeling I can better just on Hubpages since
that site already has traffic.

I will try Hubpages since I do like writing.
With blogger I can make clicbait stuff..
and get a lot of traffic. I will give it a chance this month.
If I am able to earn well I will donate FC on here to you .sound like
a good bet?

When I say adsense earns low I mean just from banner ads.
In other words page views. If you get clicks depending on the ad.
I have made over a dollar for one click. So in that case a blog
with those ads and those clicks can make a lot.
same with youtube. But on average the money for 1000 page views
it not that much unless a an is played or clicks and its high value.
But you are right on that point.
I will give it a try to promote my gaming blog with adsense again.
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Re: Hubpages VS Vocal Media - which one would you choose?

Postby skysnap » 03 Jul 2020, 07:55

Let me englighten you how powerful adsense is.

Hubpages, eHow (demand media), about.com, maven collective and countless other news and blogs that you see ranked on google all make use of the Adsense. They are the only option out there on the web. There is literally monopoly of adsense, hell even the infolinks ads you see, the background request sent by them are from google DFP if you can watch your request bar in bottom of browser.

You not able to earning much from adsense and your blogs, is 100% your fault. Fault as in not able to fetch the traffic.

Check the below image. This is earning from single article website alone. Single article. I don't even want to show you the performance of entire adsense. Now go ahead and prove me that you not earning daily like this is fault of Adsense. :D

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Remember you NOT earning higher from Adsense is completely your fault because there exists people who earn 20x more than all of us. Entire online media and content industry depends on adsense, even without youtube videos.
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Re: Hubpages VS Vocal Media - which one would you choose?

Postby nela13 » 03 Jul 2020, 17:25

skysnap wrote: This is earning from single article website alone. Single article. I don't even want to show you the performance of entire adsense.

Are these earnings from Hubpages?! I am not sure but I read somewhere that the site no longer has adsense :roll:
Today they moved one of my articles to the Letterpile blog, can anyone explain to me what does it mean?
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Re: Hubpages VS Vocal Media - which one would you choose?

Postby cmoneyspinner » 03 Jul 2020, 20:15

nela13 wrote:I am trying to get to know the community, visit others hubs and leave comments as I know it can be a future investment but now they no longer have adsense and I think earnings aren't as easy as it used to.


What do you mean they no longer have Ad Sense? I heard that people who at one time were not able to earn revenue from Ad Sense are now able to earn from their HUBs. I have to go back and check. I paid no attention because I was already earning from Ad Sense and so the change didn't apply to me.

--- 03 Jul 2020, 14:19 ---

@skysnap is right about the Ad Sense earnings from HUBPages. You can go to your account and look at the details of how your HUBs are earning. Eventually I am going to write more HUBs. Right now I have 20 HUBs that are earning passive income.
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Re: Hubpages VS Vocal Media - which one would you choose?

Postby Ashley7 » 03 Jul 2020, 21:08

Hubpages doesn't have a minimum word count?
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Re: Hubpages VS Vocal Media - which one would you choose?

Postby Coolvibez » 03 Jul 2020, 22:52

skysnap wrote:
Coolvibez wrote:AdSense earning varies on your location and traffic quality , I think people with traffic from tier 1 countries could earn more with quality traffic


True but he is blatantly saying adsense earns low because he could not write better blog posts.

I have written since 2007 on hubpages and I have done lot better with adsense and blogs combo. The thing is mysticmoon is not being honest about he is yet to get paid from the vocal media. He is just trying it like some of us here. He assumes that 1K views would be easy to get and also getting the revenue shared pool earning of 3.8 that is going to lead to 35 dollar payout is easier than adsense, which is again another assumption he has. Trust me knowing how much it takes time to accumulate views this is grind, it is slower than established adsense blog in off season.

He is not right for saying so because even with large amount of quality blog post and no traffic its still a zero earning on adsense
I prefer AdSense its just that you need quality traffic
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Re: Hubpages VS Vocal Media - which one would you choose?

Postby nela13 » 03 Jul 2020, 23:37

cmoneyspinner wrote:What do you mean they no longer have Ad Sense? I heard that people who at one time were not able to earn revenue from Ad Sense are now able to earn from their HUBs. I have to go back and check. I paid no attention because I was already earning from Ad Sense and so the change didn't apply to me.

In their earnings program it is only available Ad program and Amazon program and I think I read here somewhere that Hubpages no longer have adsense but I may have understood it wrongly.
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Re: Hubpages VS Vocal Media - which one would you choose?

Postby cmoneyspinner » 03 Jul 2020, 23:56

nela13 wrote:
cmoneyspinner wrote:What do you mean they no longer have Ad Sense? I heard that people who at one time were not able to earn revenue from Ad Sense are now able to earn from their HUBs. I have to go back and check. I paid no attention because I was already earning from Ad Sense and so the change didn't apply to me.

In their earnings program it is only available Ad program and Amazon program and I think I read here somewhere that Hubpages no longer have adsense but I may have understood it wrongly.


All I can tell you is when I check my earnings I see money earned from Ad Sense. I hardly ever earn money from Amazon sales. I gave up on that! I used to earn from Amazon sales but no more. This is why I was upset when HUBPages acquired Squidoo. When I published at Squidoo I earned for Amazon sales and for Ad Sense. Ah well! Easy come, easy go. So I stay with HUBPages because of the passive income.
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Re: Hubpages VS Vocal Media - which one would you choose?

Postby skysnap » 04 Jul 2020, 10:08

nela13 wrote:Are these earnings from Hubpages?! I am not sure but I read somewhere that the site no longer has adsense


You are right we can't use our Adsenses account on hubpages but we can use their account :D
So you can guess the eCPM rate here we are talking about is above 10 or so. Unlike our account that fluctuates.

If people stop writing poetry, politics, religion, and off topic stuff and instead write aboout education, or say adworthy content they will make complete passive income.
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Re: Hubpages VS Vocal Media - which one would you choose?

Postby peachpurple » 04 Jul 2020, 14:02

I still love Hubpages. I had been a member of Hubpages for over 10 years. I wasn't active since 2017 until now but I still earn pennies and nickles every month. I had just redeemed $50.38 yesterday, I did nothing since my 138 hubs are still active there.
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Re: Hubpages VS Vocal Media - which one would you choose?

Postby nela13 » 04 Jul 2020, 15:21

skysnap wrote:You are right we can't use our Adsenses account on hubpages but we can use their account

I am sorry, I didn't understand what do you mean :eh: Are you saying that we can use their adsense account? How?
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Re: Hubpages VS Vocal Media - which one would you choose?

Postby sofs » 04 Jul 2020, 16:38

nela13 wrote:For now, my earnings in Hubpages are very very low, I have 6 hubs so far but people there rarely comment and some don't retribute when we read and comment on their articles. What is your username there?

You cannot earn without getting views, Six hubs are not enough unless you have one of your hubs finding a place in the first page of Google search for the keyword. Interact with the community, comment on the threads initially and your posts will get some views.
My user name is the same there as well. Sofs
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Re: Hubpages VS Vocal Media - which one would you choose?

Postby cmoneyspinner » 04 Jul 2020, 18:17

skysnap wrote:You are right we can't use our Adsenses account on hubpages but we can use their account


That's it! Now I remember. When I first signed up for HUBPages it was linked to MY Ad Sense account. But now it's not. I checked my dashboard. Ad Sense revenues are shared with everyone. If for some strange reason you want to deactivate the Ad Program, you can click Deactivate. Although I don't know why any writer would choose to do that.

By contrast, at another writing site that has a revenue-share program, I have to link my Google Ad Sense account ID. Otherwise my content won't accumulate any Ad Sense Earnings.
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Re: Hubpages VS Vocal Media - which one would you choose?

Postby skysnap » 04 Jul 2020, 18:59

nela13 wrote:I am sorry, I didn't understand what do you mean Are you saying that we can use their adsense account? How?


Old Hubpages is dead. They are taken over by a company called Maven Collective. First thing that company did is removed our adsense conneciton on hubpages. Not bad if you ask me. Our CPM was not high like theirs.

Now all our hubs are using their adsense accounts. And we are sharing 40% revenue with them. Everything that you do on hubpages now, is their property and ads. All you bring over there is content and nothing else than that. Not even your links or affiliate links anymore.
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Re: Hubpages VS Vocal Media - which one would you choose?

Postby nela13 » 04 Jul 2020, 19:23

sofs wrote: cannot earn without getting views, Six hubs are not enough unless you have one of your hubs finding a place in the first page of Google search for the keyword. Interact with the community, comment on the threads initially and your posts will get some views.
My user name is the same there as well. Sofs

Yesterday I wrote another one, little by little I will get there. They moved one of my hubs to letterpile blog? Will I earn more because of that?
skysnap wrote:are using their adsense accounts. And we are sharing 40% revenue with them. Everything that you do on hubpages now, is their property and ads. All you bring over there is content and nothing else than that. Not even your links or affiliate links anymore.

Thank you, now I understand :thumbup:
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Re: Hubpages VS Vocal Media - which one would you choose?

Postby Peterluck22 » 04 Jul 2020, 23:32

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cmoneyspinner wrote:I appreciate you laying out the PROs and CONs. I don't know how I got this screwed up in my head but I thought that Vocal.Media did not Amazon affiliate links nor did they allow you to reuse old content. Thanks for clarifying.


Yes, they certainly do allow you to repost articles that you have posted elsewhere, but you need to prove ownership of your article. I do not know what procedure you need to follow to claim ownership of your article, since I haven't yet submit any repost.

So its not clear how to claim ownership of an article on the site... Lets see prove first any volunteers
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Re: Hubpages VS Vocal Media - which one would you choose?

Postby suny » 05 Jul 2020, 01:26

sofs wrote:I love hubpages for various reasons, its pays through paypal for one, stripe doesn't work in my country so I have no way of earning through Medium. If they pay through paypal I would jump into medium rightaway.

Medium pays more and payout threshold is lower. Havimg said that once you are established on Hubpages you keep getting passive income and I am able to cash out once in three months with doing anything.


Are you hundred percent sure Stripe doesn't work in India. According to my information the stripe is available in India from 2017 end so you should try it another time. Please mention stripindia when you search it. I am not very sure but I will be looking here for your answer and post at this site according to your response. By the way I found this on internet- Not a ref link
https://thenextweb.com/in/2017/12/12/st ... 0countries.
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Re: Hubpages VS Vocal Media - which one would you choose?

Postby skysnap » 05 Jul 2020, 10:16

suny wrote:Are you hundred percent sure Stripe doesn't work in India.


She is right sunny. Stripe does work in India, but our International remittance is not yet active. You can check your account on stripe for this. Stripe currently works same as PayTM as in local inbound payments. International remittance will be open once they get bank license and local authority on remittance like say citibank or other banks doing in integration with them like paypal has.
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