[Netherrealmer]

In Music, female solo singers have longer relevance than the male ones. I mean Madonna, Janet Jackson, Bette Midler and Kylie Minogue still make music. Aretha Franklin died as an old lady who still make albums. When it comes to bands though all female groups don't last, Whether its a Pop girl band or a rock band. All female groups don't last because the members can't stand each other.

I remember there was a boxing reality show called the Contender, All the boxers kill each other in the ring but in the house they are all friends. Compare that to America's next top model where all the contestants wants to kill each other. Women seemed to enjoy a co-ed environment more. Having them stuck with the same group of ladies for a long time is hard for them.

Backstreet Boys are Grandpas now but they are still together. In the rock side of things, Rolling Stones still make music. Male groups do break up and not reconcile but they last longer and reunite easier.

What is the reason? First male friendships are easier to reconcile, when 2 male friends fight, They will be friends again days later. When female friends fight, its end of friendship and if there will be reconciliation it will take decades. Even sisters will never talk again if they got a fight.

They sing about girl power and friendship but they hate each other.

In case of solo female singers, Pregnancy and marriage is not a hurdle because she can take a break. In case of the group though 1 getting pregnant or married affects the whole group.

There is also ambition and Jealousy. Women in girl groups have desire to have a solo. They are all in a hurry to break up to have a solo career.

[Lushh]

There is also ambition and Jealousy. Women in girl groups have desire to have a solo. They are all in a hurry to break up to have a solo career.

I have seen male groups fall out like this too. One of them gets the idea to branch off and that's the end of it for all of them. Sometimes it's the fans who idolize one of them over the others as the star of the show and sure enough man goes off to run his own show and flops. But for real though, you've made solid points about why some groups don't last. Ambition (and fights) can be taken to another level.

[Netherrealmer]

Male groups have more chance to reconcile and reunite after a series of solos. That is not the case with female groups, once they experienced solo careers, they want to stick with it.

Spice girls is an interesting case study, they would be billionaires if they never broke up. Fans wanted them as a complete five. So their album sales suffer whenever someone is missing. Fans like them more equally and there is no "Beyonce" or "Michelle" in the group. They are also not interchangeable.



Ginger quits because of Solo ambitions and eating disorder.


Now Ginger comes back but Posh doesn't want to come back because she is a businesswoman, a wife and she have 4 kids, she have no time to be a part of a girl group again.



Every time they try to reunite, someone leaves.

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Beatles actually reunited in the 80s after John's death.

[Lushh]

Every time they try to reunite, someone leaves

I have to agree that this kind of drama comes with the territory. We wouldn't be talking about a ladies group if that (and all the other things) didn't happen. Wrong? The point you made regarding The Beatles proved your argument right and once again you've 'schooled' me. I didn't even know that about Beatles (breaking up and coming back together).

[chikitta]

This is the unfortunate truth, if i think about it longer the more it makes sense. that is the irony behind women we will praise each other and encourage each other but we will also hate on each other, sounds funny but it is very true. I think the thought of one group member being favored by fans is what changes everything, they will move out and start up on their own they forget that it was the togetherness that made them make it.

[Netherrealmer]

There is a girlband where 1 member is universally hated by every member.


In every single Music video only Nicole sings, The other girls found out in 2018 that their recorded voice used for back up vocals are not used by the company. Its all Nicole. The girls sleep in a tour bus while Nicole has her own hotel room.

Melody the only black girl in the group left the group because hates that she is a trained Soprano and she was never allowed to sing a solo verse.

I know in the Hierarchy of Destiny's child, beyonce is the top tier and Michelle is the bottom but at least Michelle gets to have solo verses. No Pussycat doll aside from Nicole was given a solo verse.

There was a time when Pussycat dolls have a concert in Indonesia, Nicole is late and Melody took advantage of her absence and sang lead.



She was enjoying the moment when Nicole suddenly pop out of nowhere.

This is when Melody snapped and tell Nicole how she felt with her politics game.

[Lushh]

Had they been playing any instruments during the presentation there would be less time for all the other stuff. Jeez! That's probably another thing. What do you think? Often the members in the male bands are playing their own music. One drummer, one bass guitarist, one lead singer and so on. I can't say I recall any male groups where everyone is hogging the 'head singer' seat. Wth! It seems like they are better able to work together as ONE. That's what a group is by the way.

[Netherrealmer]

Had they been playing any instruments during the presentation there would be less time for all the other stuff. Jeez! That's probably another thing. What do you think? Often the members in the male bands are playing their own music. One drummer, one bass guitarist, one lead singer and so on. I can't say I recall any male groups where everyone is hogging the 'head singer' seat. Wth! It seems like they are better able to work together as ONE. That's what a group is by the way.

Maroon 5 members actually hates that their more recent music videos is all about Adam. Other rock bands actually gives the musicians time to shine in music videos like giving the bass guitarist a solo segment.

[Lushh]

Maroon 5 members actually hates that their more recent music videos is all about Adam. Other rock bands actually gives the musicians time to shine in music videos like giving the bass guitarist a solo segment.

Yes, that's usually how we see it. Every now and again someone from the background will come and sing and it doesn't seem to be a problem. So are you saying Maroon 5 members now have this kind of drama going on? Lol. It's too funny.

[MysticMoons]

Yeah they do not last long, but I do remember the spice girls it was a funny time in life

[Netherrealmer]

Yeah they do not last long, but I do remember the spice girls it was a funny time in life

Prove that women don't get along, I will use reality shows as examples.There are more house fights in America's Next top model than the all male seasons of Ultimate fighter. Kpop girl groups can at least last up to 7 years but after that they are done.

If the girls in a musical group can endure being together for years then they will last longer but usually around three years they want to kill each other already. Rock bands with female vocalists last longer too because women gets along better with guys.

[MysticMoons]

lol oh yeah women do you not get along! And you are right those reality shows prove it. I think that things are interesting on those shows lol.. but yes it's always drama. I imagine that is the same kind of drama the spice girls had behind the scenes

[Netherrealmer]

Geri have multiple reasons to left spice girls


She developed an eating disorder because media calls her the chubby one or the fat one.
Their manager is verbally abusive.
She was in a Lesbian relationship with Mel B when Mel B got pregnant, so that means she cheated on her. (both of them are with married with men now and both are mothers)
Victoria is pain to live with

[peachpurple]

I bet these girls are getting old, thats why they do not last long in music industry

[Netherrealmer]

I bet these girls are getting old, thats why they do not last long in music industry

Female solo singers tends to have longer careers actually. So its not really age but the members of girl groups just ends up hating each other.

[kataomoi]

Female solo singers tends to have longer careers actually. So its not really age but the members of girl groups just ends up hating each other.

Because female soloists are not constantly compared to any one. Girl group members have additional pressure because they are constantly being compared to each other by the media. "Member A is looking old, Member B is not performing up to standard, Member C is the best member of the group now, etc, etc. It is the toxic media (and recently, the internet) that kills girl groups.

There are many Asian girl groups who have been together for a long time. Perfume in Japan have been together for at least 10+ years. The core members of AKB48 are around for 6-7 years before they leave. SNSD in Korea were together for around 10 years as well. Twins from Hong Kong and S.H.E from Taiwan were all around for 7 years+ years before they went on hiatus (and later returned). Little Mix (not Asian) have also been around for a while.

The "women do not get along with each other/women are not forgiving of one another" is a stereotype. Truth is, as soon as a group (boy or girl) loses its potential to earn, they get disbanded. I want to say more often than not, the decision is made by the company and not the members themselves.

[cmoneyspinner]

The majority of girl groups don't last because they were packaged and sold as PHAT! Pretty, hot and tempting! You don't young and sexy for that long.

[Netherrealmer]

The majority of girl groups don't last because they were packaged and sold as PHAT! Pretty, hot and tempting! You don't young and sexy for that long.

I don't really think that's the case because they manage to have solo careers. Its more like they cant stand each other. Also solo female singers have longer career than men. Look how long the careers of Madonna,Kylie, Aretha and Adele are compared to most male singers.

[cmoneyspinner]

The majority of girl groups don't last because they were packaged and sold as PHAT! Pretty, hot and tempting! You don't young and sexy for that long.

I don't really think that's the case because they manage to have solo careers. Its more like they cant stand each other. Also solo female singers have longer career than men. Look how long the careers of Madonna,Kylie, Aretha and Adele are compared to most male singers.

Yeah. There is usually always one on the group who could have stood on her own right from the very start. But the reason the girl "groups" don't last is because of what I said. PHAT don't last!

[Netherrealmer]

I dont think Youth have something to do with it since as I said solo female singers have longer careers than men. Its more like Jealousy between the group and also the management wanting them to do solos. Backstreet Boys are close to becoming Grandpas and they are still together. As I said solo females have longer careers but Male groups last longer.

Also male friendships are easier to reconcile.

Straight Men are also not the main demographic of girl groups. Its teenage girls and Gay men. When it comes to female singers, Straight Men are more into singer songwriters that play instruments. SO I don't see the PHAT as a factor. Also not all girl groups as PHATS, some of them are marketed as cute while some are marketed as Sophisticated. Not all girl groups are sexpots.